Square Four won't start

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Square Four won't start

Post by paul.sammut » Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:40 pm

Hi all,

Hope you can help me. I just did a complete tear-down on my 1958 Ariel Square Four since it had not been running for a long time (save around my neighborhood after I bought it). Good thing I did dismantle it as I found a broken stud banging around in a push-rod tunnel and that the crankshaft oil ways were filled with concretions. Anyway, after the rebuild, I cannot get it to start. The cylinders were in spec, so I just honed them and installed new piston rings. but there was not even a splutter with each kick. I have a healthy spark (standard points and distributor) in all 4 plugs.
There is very poor compression - only about 50 psi - in each cylinder! I rechecked tappet clearance and all have appropriate gaps. I have not done a leak down test, yet, as I do not think it’ll answer the question at this point.

The first thing that comes to mind is that I have the valve timing all wrong. The odd thing is that the crankshaft pinion has three keyway slots at 120 degree intervals. The book says this is “in case alternative timing is required” Seems peculiar to me. Anyway, there are supposed to be two lines on the pinion that should point towards the camshaft when the appropriate slot is chosen. Mine only has a punch mark and I chose that to set the timing with. Is it likely that this is incorrect and that I should try timing with an alternative slot? If not, what other things should I try, short of removing the head, again?

I look forward to all responses and thank you in advance,

Paul.

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Re: Square Four won't start

Post by phil.auldridge » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:20 am

Hi Paul,
I share your pain.. these things seem to never come together without a bit of hand wringing. Wish I could help you, but sounds like you are taking the same steps I would.

The only advice I can give is that you consider posting your issue on the British Ariel forum as well, which has a much more developed member base, and significantly larger participation on the forum: http://www.arielownersmcc.co.uk/index.html
Posting on that forum may require you to join the UK club, but honestly, it would be money well spent, at least for one year while you get your bike sorted out. Lots of experts there who can lead you in the right direction.

Phil Auldridge
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Phil Auldridge - Austin, Texas
1953 Ariel Square 4
1997 Honda Valkyrie
1972 Norton Combat Commando
1978 BMW R100/7
1980 Honda CBX
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Re: Square Four won't start

Post by paul.sammut » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:32 pm

Thank you, Phil - I've already done that and also submitted the same question to the Ariel forum on Britbike.com.
Paul.

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